Comments on: The Book of Mormon: Fact, fiction or fading away? http://saintsherald.com/2009/09/19/the-book-of-mormon-fact-fiction-or-fading-away/ The Center Place of the Community of Christ Bloggitorium Tue, 16 Mar 2010 01:33:12 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: FireTag http://saintsherald.com/2009/09/19/the-book-of-mormon-fact-fiction-or-fading-away/#comment-687 FireTag Sat, 24 Oct 2009 04:10:20 +0000 http://saintsherald.com/?p=282#comment-687 Obamar1920: I believe your post belongs on the "Reflections on Whiteness" thread -- as an object lesson. If your website wishes to charge the President of the United States with being the false prophet foretold in Revelation, I suspect you'll find no sympathy here from either conservative or progressive. Obamar1920:

I believe your post belongs on the “Reflections on Whiteness” thread — as an object lesson.

If your website wishes to charge the President of the United States with being the false prophet foretold in Revelation, I suspect you’ll find no sympathy here from either conservative or progressive.

]]> By: obamar1920 http://saintsherald.com/2009/09/19/the-book-of-mormon-fact-fiction-or-fading-away/#comment-686 obamar1920 Sat, 24 Oct 2009 00:24:59 +0000 http://saintsherald.com/?p=282#comment-686 Thank God! for the Book of Mormon, it's hard to refute the Bible account, when you have the Book of Mormon account also. Btw, you must deal with current evanglists who have been to heaven, and have met Jesus, not to mention the many who have been raised from the dead by him. Thank God! for the Book of Mormon, it’s hard to refute the Bible account, when you have the Book of Mormon account also.

Btw, you must deal with current evanglists who have been to heaven, and have met Jesus, not to mention the many who have been raised from the dead by him.

]]> By: Margie Miller http://saintsherald.com/2009/09/19/the-book-of-mormon-fact-fiction-or-fading-away/#comment-685 Margie Miller Fri, 23 Oct 2009 12:22:28 +0000 http://saintsherald.com/?p=282#comment-685 Well, to begin with, I never use the Book of Mormon to proof text. I don't know how involved David Whitmer was in the entire conspiracy. It could be that he was entirely innocent. I have never seen any evidence that he might have been involved in the conspiracy I believe existed in writing the Book of Mormon. I do not believe Jesus was resurrected either. Of course he was born and died. There are accounts of the resurrection of Roman emperors and many of the early Christians were pagan, who believed such things. If their emperors were divine, which they believed, born of virgins, which they also believed and resurrected, then why not Jesus, to whom they had already ascribed divinity? No, I'm not into the "magic world view". Well, to begin with, I never use the Book of Mormon to proof text. I don’t know how involved David Whitmer was in the entire conspiracy. It could be that he was entirely innocent. I have never seen any evidence that he might have been involved in the conspiracy I believe existed in writing the Book of Mormon.

I do not believe Jesus was resurrected either. Of course he was born and died. There are accounts of the resurrection of Roman emperors and many of the early Christians were pagan, who believed such things. If their emperors were divine, which they believed, born of virgins, which they also believed and resurrected, then why not Jesus, to whom they had already ascribed divinity?

No, I’m not into the “magic world view”.

]]> By: BOMCi http://saintsherald.com/2009/09/19/the-book-of-mormon-fact-fiction-or-fading-away/#comment-684 BOMCi Fri, 23 Oct 2009 08:48:52 +0000 http://saintsherald.com/?p=282#comment-684 The Book of Mormon "carries conviction with it" said David Whitmer, but also, it is the ONLY witness confirming the birth, death, and resurrection of Jesus, thus, it is a target of the evil one. The Book of Mormon “carries conviction with it” said David Whitmer, but also, it is the ONLY witness confirming the birth, death, and resurrection of Jesus, thus, it is a target of the evil one.

]]> By: Abe http://saintsherald.com/2009/09/19/the-book-of-mormon-fact-fiction-or-fading-away/#comment-679 Abe Sat, 17 Oct 2009 16:42:38 +0000 http://saintsherald.com/?p=282#comment-679 To see how the Book of Mormon can be placed within a non-denominational context I encourage you to visit: http://www.bomchristian.com And I do believe the Book of Mormon is historically accurate. Lehi, Nephi, Mosiah, Alma, Heleman, Mormon, Moroni were all men who lived, loved, preached, wrote, and died. To see how the Book of Mormon can be placed within a non-denominational context I encourage you to visit:
http://www.bomchristian.com

And I do believe the Book of Mormon is historically accurate. Lehi, Nephi, Mosiah, Alma, Heleman, Mormon, Moroni were all men who lived, loved, preached, wrote, and died.

]]> By: DNA AND DYNASTIC CHRONOLOGIES « The Fire Still Burning http://saintsherald.com/2009/09/19/the-book-of-mormon-fact-fiction-or-fading-away/#comment-677 DNA AND DYNASTIC CHRONOLOGIES « The Fire Still Burning Fri, 16 Oct 2009 22:01:49 +0000 http://saintsherald.com/?p=282#comment-677 [...] Southerton published a summary article of the DNA findings that shows how traditional LDS and Community of Christ apologetics stumble in the face of this evidence. (Thanks to Mormon Heretic for publishing the Southerton link [...] [...] Southerton published a summary article of the DNA findings that shows how traditional LDS and Community of Christ apologetics stumble in the face of this evidence. (Thanks to Mormon Heretic for publishing the Southerton link [...]

]]> By: FireTag http://saintsherald.com/2009/09/19/the-book-of-mormon-fact-fiction-or-fading-away/#comment-673 FireTag Fri, 16 Oct 2009 01:08:47 +0000 http://saintsherald.com/?p=282#comment-673 I guess that shows the diversity of views permitted in the Community of Christ. I guess that shows the diversity of views permitted in the Community of Christ.

]]> By: Margie Miller http://saintsherald.com/2009/09/19/the-book-of-mormon-fact-fiction-or-fading-away/#comment-671 Margie Miller Wed, 14 Oct 2009 22:27:56 +0000 http://saintsherald.com/?p=282#comment-671 Yes, and Emma Smith swore on her deathbed that Joseph Smith did not teach or practice polygamy. I don't believe her testimony either. We now know from a number of sources that he certainly did both. If Rigdon was involved in the writing of the Book of Mormon, he would certainly not admit it. On the other hand, he had all his papers burned when he died. Why? No, I still believe he was involved and some day the proof will come out. As it is there is circumstantial evidence. Yes, and Emma Smith swore on her deathbed that Joseph Smith did not teach or practice polygamy. I don’t believe her testimony either. We now know from a number of sources that he certainly did both.

If Rigdon was involved in the writing of the Book of Mormon, he would certainly not admit it. On the other hand, he had all his papers burned when he died. Why?

No, I still believe he was involved and some day the proof will come out. As it is there is circumstantial evidence.

]]> By: Tave Baker http://saintsherald.com/2009/09/19/the-book-of-mormon-fact-fiction-or-fading-away/#comment-670 Tave Baker Wed, 14 Oct 2009 21:52:12 +0000 http://saintsherald.com/?p=282#comment-670 A piece of info I found somewhere. Thought it should be placed here. Rigdon denied the Spaulding story throughout his life. When his son John questioned him shortly before his death, he replied: "My son, I can swear before high heaven that what I have told you about the origin of that book is true. Your mother and sister, Mrs. Athalia Robinson, were present when that book was handed to me in Mentor, Ohio, and all I ever knew about the origin of that book was that Parley P. Pratt, Oliver Cowdery, Joseph Smith and the witnesses who claimed they saw the plates have told me, and in all my intimacy with Joseph Smith he never told me but one story, and that was that he found it engraved upon gold plates in a hill near Palmyra, New York, and that an angel had appeared to him and directed him where to find it. . . ." A piece of info I found somewhere. Thought it should be placed here.

Rigdon denied the Spaulding story throughout his life. When his son John questioned him shortly before his death, he replied: “My son, I can swear before high heaven that what I have told you about the origin of that book is true. Your mother and sister, Mrs. Athalia Robinson, were present when that book was handed to me in Mentor, Ohio, and all I ever knew about the origin of that book was that Parley P. Pratt, Oliver Cowdery, Joseph Smith and the witnesses who claimed they saw the plates have told me, and in all my intimacy with Joseph Smith he never told me but one story, and that was that he found it engraved upon gold plates in a hill near Palmyra, New York, and that an angel had appeared to him and directed him where to find it. . . .”

]]> By: Margie Miller http://saintsherald.com/2009/09/19/the-book-of-mormon-fact-fiction-or-fading-away/#comment-668 Margie Miller Thu, 08 Oct 2009 22:52:48 +0000 http://saintsherald.com/?p=282#comment-668 Rich, I don't find the book of Mormon to be a major sticking point in Ministerial Alliances in my area. I have been the president of the one in Independence, Kansas, and have spent the past seven years as secretary/treasurer for the one in Coffeyville, Kansas. I write a column for the two area newspapers and their readers have an opportunity to hear and read about what I believe. That doesn't seem to be a problem. Rich, I don’t find the book of Mormon to be a major sticking point in Ministerial Alliances in my area. I have been the president of the one in Independence, Kansas, and have spent the past seven years as secretary/treasurer for the one in Coffeyville, Kansas. I write a column for the two area newspapers and their readers have an opportunity to hear and read about what I believe. That doesn’t seem to be a problem.

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